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Old 11-16-2012, 10:13 PM   #26 (permalink)
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#121. We need a hell of a lot more - 24,880 to go and 4 weeks left.
X2 signed but we need more signatures. Would it be a good idea to put the link in Chit Chat? (There's probably one there already but I didn't want to create another unneeded thread).
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camp chef has asked to have there name removed from the letter i think it would be great if everyone would go support them and just say thanks!

http://www.facebook.com/campchef


people still on the list that you should tell to eat poo and die..( not really of course please be polite but let them know you dont approve and wont support )

http://www.facebook.com/OutdoorIndus...iation?fref=ts

http://www.facebook.com/blackdiamondequipment

http://www.facebook.com/Backcountry?fref=ts

http://www.facebook.com/EasternMNTNsports?fref=ts

http://www.facebook.com/Petzl?fref=ts

http://www.facebook.com/PATAGONIA?fref=ts


thats just a few.. i can post more if people are interested?


this would close access for mountain bikers .. so we need to get them to join us not fight us!

yet several bike companies signed the letter.. i think SUWA has lied to all of them!
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I just posted some comments on various FB pages.

There are several people in full on damage control mode trying to reassure businesses that the Monument would not limit offroad travel... Total Non-Truths!

Please folks, search for the businesses & post up comments, & most importantly educate those being lied to.
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Because they have tried for YEARS and failed.....Hinchey
Yeah, that's the idea . . .

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At least that would ensure nothing got done!
. . . better yet, let the States decide!!!
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New Belgium Brewery (Fat Tire, Sunshine wheat, Ranger IPA . . .) that signed the petition. A couple posted up supporting their decision to sign the post. Feel free to post up and stop drinking their beer.
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New Belgium Brewery (Fat Tire, Sunshine wheat, Ranger IPA . . .) that signed the petition. A couple posted up supporting their decision to sign the post. Feel free to post up and stop drinking their beer.
yep no more new belgium for me. shits over rated anyway
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This thread needs more exposure. 2 pages on the largest 4wd forum is not good.
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I have been posting Saturday day and night and am still going. Make sure we show our support for Camp Chef! Also, I have been tracking down some of the very vocal people supporting the companys that signed the letter and have been bringing their true agendas to light.

We ALL have to fight!!!!!
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Looks like therre is at least one campground on there. Maybe this person needs to be educated on what happened in Murphy when they closed Tellico.

And with the Easter Jeep Safari coming up, people need to think about cancelling any reservations they have and doing a total boycott on his campground.
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Looks like therre is at least one campground on there. Maybe this person needs to be educated on what happened in Murphy when they closed Tellico.

And with the Easter Jeep Safari coming up, people need to think about cancelling any reservations they have and doing a total boycott on his campground.
Letters to KOA corporate office would probably help as well.
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thanks for the support guys..

here is another petition please sign it.. this one has alot lower goal i think we could meet it today with your help!

Petition | President Barack Obama: Do Not Designate the Greater Canyonlands Area a National Monument | Change.org
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My email response to New Belgium. I am also sending similar emails to several other companies on the list.


As a Fat Tire beer drinker and a Colorado native I was highly disappointed to see that New Belgium Brewing was one of the supporters of this proposal.

New Belgium Brewing
Ft. Collins, CO
Jenn Vervier
Director, Strategic Development
and Sustainability

As a disabled veteran who served two deployments in Iraq, your support of this proposal will effectively cut off access to this area for myself and others like me. It is a shame that your company would support such an elitist view of who can access the beautiful country we fought so hard to protect. I will no longer purchase any of your products and those in my circle of friends and family will not either.
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I am not seeing many new comments to these buisness FB pages. We need to voice our dissatisfaction with them. Pressure them into rethinking who they support. It doesn't take much time. Git er done people!
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Urgent Bad news for Utah

Deep Desert Expeditions - Adventures In The Deep Desert

The owner of this Moab tour group is extremely anti OHV access while running his business using the access we fight to protect. I have voiced my opinion on the company FB page. Please do the same.

Or call and ask them (435) 259-1565
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The owner of this Moab tour group is extremely anti OHV access while running his business using the access we fight to protect. I have voiced my opinion on the company FB page. Please do the same.
Jackpot!
I looked up their FB page.
Here is the list of pages for companies involved with the petition.
They used the words "under attack from the offroad industry".....

Deep Desert Expeditions is proud to support efforts to protect Greater Canyonlands.
the following companies are being attacked with a mis-information campaign by the OHV extremists for their support. If you have a chance, drop them a line and thank them for helping!

Hope everyone has a great weekend!!!

Here is a list of companies who we know are already under attack:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Petzl...625811?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Proba...000277?fref=ts

https://www.facebook.com/PatagoniaVentura
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Canyo...321082?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/rimmountainbiketours?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/Teva?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Moab-...633663?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/RedWingShoes?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/CFIMoab?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Migue...631157?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/CamelBak?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/prana?ref=ts&fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Moab-...t/228980170634
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Moab-...020745?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/Ospreypacks?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/marmotpro
https://www.facebook.com/thenorthface?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/NicholsExpeditions
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Nikwa...746820?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/ConservationAlliance?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Backb...20333241366801
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Far-O...683478?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bryce...352401?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Pine-...260854?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Red-D...277710?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/newbelgium?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/NeptuneMountaineering?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/LaSportiva?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/scarpaNA?ref=ts&fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/accessfund
https://www.facebook.com/pages/SOAR-...s/170410129525
https://www.facebook.com/AmericanAlp...ref=ts&fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/nrsweb
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Asana...054470?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/OutdoorResearch?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Inter...095830?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/mountaingearfanpage?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ultra...315910?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Peak-Sports/216335285408
https://www.facebook.com/Montrail?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Treas...198218?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Mount...498249?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wilso...460222?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/grassrootso...liance?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/midwestmountaineering?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/RiverSportsOutfitters?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/BurtonSnowboards?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/rabbitmountain
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Imlay...037437?fref=ts


Here are more companies who signed the letter that will probably be hit to – if they haven’t already been attacked by the time we sent this out:

https://www.facebook.com/blackdiamondequipment
https://www.facebook.com/Backcountry?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/EasternMNTNsports?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/WesternSpirit?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Grego...876758?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/mountainhardwear?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Moki-...100161?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/JanSport?ref=ts&fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/MoabSkinnyTireEvents?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Magpi...ref=ts&fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Eklec...45558748841551
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Horny...038227?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/With-...794221?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ameri...421969?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/BergansUSA
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Deser...35030156534466
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Aspen...470025?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Adven...08944315801869
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ute-M...635291?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Loki-Gear/167850483782
https://www.facebook.com/4CornersRiversports?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/durangocoloradorafting
https://www.facebook.com/deerhill?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/Klingmounta...ref=ts&fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/openskywilderness?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wasat...079058?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/VerdePR?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/venturesnowboards?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Inter...823683?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/CafeTrioUtah
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Great...11113395581231
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Stohl...473904?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/outsideadve...school?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/OutdoorUtah
https://www.facebook.com/VetExpeditions?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/fishpond.usa
https://www.facebook.com/StonewearDesigns?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/QualityBicycleProducts
https://www.facebook.com/wildiriscli...ref=ts&fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/AlpineSportsUtah?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/oceanmedix
https://www.facebook.com/base.camp.58?ref=profile
https://www.facebook.com/campchef?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Mammo...610154?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Chris...60170544121843
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Deser...ref=ts&fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Jetbo...17715088289394
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Mammu...25608164159862
https://www.facebook.com/pages/River...87851304659620
https://www.facebook.com/packandpaddle
https://www.facebook.com/packratoutdoorcenter?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Exped-LLC/115443447121

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Jackpot!
I looked up their FB page.
Here is the list of pages for companies involved with the petition.
They used the words "under attack from the offroad industry".....

Deep Desert Expeditions is proud to support efforts to protect Greater Canyonlands.
the following companies are being attacked with a mis-information campaign by the OHV extremists for their support. If you have a chance, drop them a line and thank them for helping!

Hope everyone has a great weekend!!!

Here is a list of companies who we know are already under attack:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Petzl...625811?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Proba...000277?fref=ts

https://www.facebook.com/PatagoniaVentura
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Canyo...321082?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/rimmountainbiketours?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/Teva?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Moab-...633663?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/RedWingShoes?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/CFIMoab?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Migue...631157?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/CamelBak?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/prana?ref=ts&fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Moab-...t/228980170634
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Moab-...020745?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/Ospreypacks?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/marmotpro
https://www.facebook.com/thenorthface?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/NicholsExpeditions
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Nikwa...746820?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/ConservationAlliance?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Backb...20333241366801
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Far-O...683478?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bryce...352401?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Pine-...260854?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Red-D...277710?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/newbelgium?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/NeptuneMountaineering?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/LaSportiva?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/scarpaNA?ref=ts&fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/accessfund
https://www.facebook.com/pages/SOAR-...s/170410129525
https://www.facebook.com/AmericanAlp...ref=ts&fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/nrsweb
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Asana...054470?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/OutdoorResearch?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Inter...095830?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/mountaingearfanpage?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ultra...315910?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Peak-Sports/216335285408
https://www.facebook.com/Montrail?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Treas...198218?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Mount...498249?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wilso...460222?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/grassrootso...liance?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/midwestmountaineering?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/RiverSportsOutfitters?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/BurtonSnowboards?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/rabbitmountain
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Imlay...037437?fref=ts


Here are more companies who signed the letter that will probably be hit to – if they haven’t already been attacked by the time we sent this out:

https://www.facebook.com/blackdiamondequipment
https://www.facebook.com/Backcountry?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/EasternMNTNsports?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/WesternSpirit?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Grego...876758?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/mountainhardwear?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Moki-...100161?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/JanSport?ref=ts&fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/MoabSkinnyTireEvents?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Magpi...ref=ts&fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Eklec...45558748841551
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Horny...038227?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/With-...794221?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ameri...421969?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/BergansUSA
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Deser...35030156534466
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Aspen...470025?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Adven...08944315801869
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ute-M...635291?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Loki-Gear/167850483782
https://www.facebook.com/4CornersRiversports?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/durangocoloradorafting
https://www.facebook.com/deerhill?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/Klingmounta...ref=ts&fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/openskywilderness?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wasat...079058?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/VerdePR?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/venturesnowboards?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Inter...823683?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/CafeTrioUtah
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Great...11113395581231
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Stohl...473904?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/outsideadve...school?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/OutdoorUtah
https://www.facebook.com/VetExpeditions?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/fishpond.usa
https://www.facebook.com/StonewearDesigns?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/QualityBicycleProducts
https://www.facebook.com/wildiriscli...ref=ts&fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/AlpineSportsUtah?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/oceanmedix
https://www.facebook.com/base.camp.58?ref=profile
https://www.facebook.com/campchef?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Mammo...610154?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Chris...60170544121843
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Deser...ref=ts&fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Jetbo...17715088289394
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Mammu...25608164159862
https://www.facebook.com/pages/River...87851304659620
https://www.facebook.com/packandpaddle
https://www.facebook.com/packratoutdoorcenter?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Exped-LLC/115443447121


WOW, That guy did all the work for the OHV industry. He's a smart one.

Shows no mater how much back tracking they do, that it is really about blocking access, so they can have their own private playground.
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Years ago with the help of Pirate4x4, and carried by Rocky Mountain Extreme we changed the perception of a vocal opponent of OHV use at Potato Salad Hill. Today Sara is Pro Multiple use.

Perhaps we should target a few of the Moab businesses, with a protest during Safari. I am sure they like cashing OHV checks at the banks. Not just a Boycott, but protest! Some of those companies are hypocrites, they jumped on that band wagon for marketing, Maybe OHV users should show them just how good that marketing campaign worked? Hikers don't spend the kind of Money OHV people spend.
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WOW, That guy did all the work for the OHV industry. He's a smart one.

Shows no mater how much back tracking they do...

The owner of that business is Mike Coronella. I had been debating him on FB under one of the posts made to Camp Chef. As soon as I voiced my concern on his business FB page, he immediately deleted all of his posts from the Camp Chef thread. He is also deleting all of my posts to his business FB page. I do believe he knows this could hurt his business if too many people find out about his real agenda.

I was really quite surprised to find out he is looking to trade in his van for a “big four wheel drive Suburban”.

What a hypocrite!
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I have never been on facebook, but I guees I'll have to sign up at least more this mission.
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Old 11-19-2012, 02:02 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Signed.
We now have a thread going with several people signing from gl4x4.com in Michigan.

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Old 11-19-2012, 02:26 PM   #47 (permalink)
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It looks like "Patagonia Ventura" has delete all posts having anything to do with opposing the monument.
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Bump! please keep constant pressure, Edurance will help this in the long run.
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Old 11-19-2012, 06:01 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Bump! please keep constant pressure, Edurance will help this in the long run.
this petition only needs 50 more signs please sign and pass it on!

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thanks everyone for your help i think companies are going to realize how many people they are pissing off!
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I wonder if it would be beneficial to start a FB account with all of these companies’ names. If it has already been done, I am not aware of it. It just seems that social media is so limited on how far we can go unless you find individual accounts.

I have sent emails to company service departments as Mocha Mike recommended, but it is hard to know if those fall on deaf ears.
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